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Is there a difference between the Christian God and Allah?

By Rick Whalston, Ph.D
From his coffee talk series of articles

“Is the number 3 the same thing as the number 1?

If an object has three elemental components and another object has only one elemental component, who would think that the two items were the same? Yet, when people talk of God, they somehow think that they can leave these most basic elements of logic behind. The problem is that when one leaves logic behind, one can make anything out of (or into) anything.

Following logic and chemistry let us use “formula labels” for the two Gods of Christianity and Islam; this will help us see how they differ.

Discerning the Constructs: D1P3 and D1P1

D1P3 = the Christian God

D1P1 = the Islamic God

D1P3: The Christian God is D1P3.

D1 stands for the fact that God is One Substance. He is divine (or divinity). So, the Christian God has only one substance. The Christian God is also P3. P3 stands for the fact that God consists of (i.e., construct) Three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Thus, the Christian God is (D1P3) One Substance (essential element) + Three Persons (construct).

D1P1: The Islamic God is D1P1.

D1 stands for the fact that God is One Substance. He is divine (or divinity). So, the Islamic God has only one substance. The Islamic God is P1. P1 stands for the fact that the Islamic God consists of only One Person. Thus, the Islamic God is (D1P1) One Substance (essential element) + One Person (construct).

The difference between D1P3 and D1P1 is obvious and easily discerned.

These two “Gods” are no more the same as are H2O (water) and H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide), which also have the same essential element but differ only in construct.”

From Way of the Master:

“Pray about where you should fellowship. Make sure the place you are going to call your church home calls sin what it is — sin. Do they believe the promises of God? Are they loving? Does the pastor treat his wife with respect? Is he a man of the Word? Does he have a humble heart, and a gentle spirit?” [also]

Good according to God’s standards = Moral perfection in thought, word and deeds.

My Conclusion:

Anyone who follows their own way instead of God’s, has a fool for a leader.

If your going to claim the mantle of Pastor/Teacher/Evangelist or whatever else. You must not stray from the truth of His word. If anyone brings other teachings into the Church, they must be exposed as apostates. If anyone listens to these people and buys into alternative teaching like Contemplative Prayer or any of this New Age teaching. IT MEANS YOU DON”T HAVE THE GIFT OF DISCERNMENT. Instead of being offended read the Bible and compare it to what these people are saying. The Lord Jesus Christ will judge everyone… are you prepared to follow Him in truth? I give these warnings because I care what happens to all of you. God’s peace, Dan



“Of all the dispositions and habits that lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion.” George Washington; in his Farewell Address

“What Moses brought down from Mt. Sinai were not the ten suggestions. The sheer brilliance of the Ten Commandments is that they codify in a handful of words acceptable human behavior, not just for then or now, but for all time.” Ted Koppel

“Unless a person comes to know sin through the law of Moses, they can never know the grace of Jesus and His Salvation. “When we inquire weather God’s ways are right, we have only to ask weather they correspond with his own perfections, for there is no higher standard by which they may be tried. No act of disobedience can ever be justified under His righteous Government.” Dr. John L. Dagg, 1794-1884 “

Indifference to Scripture is a mark of Spiritual death.” Dr. John MacArthur

You cannot understand Scripture unless the Holy Spirit reveals it to you.

“I recall what General Douglas McArthur had said during his final speech at West Point. “When I wake I think of the corp, My thought’s during the day are of the corp, and on my death bed will be of the corp.” Unless as Christian’s our thought’s when we wake are of the Cross, our thought’s through-out the day are of the Cross, when we witness it’s thought’s of the Cross that guide us. We have not given the Lord enough. Worldly things are fleeting, The Gift of the Cross will last forever.” Dan Beliveau

“The bible is revelation, designed to reveal truth.” Mark Kielar

“Church people think about how to get people into the church; Kingdom people think about how to get the church into the world. Church people worry that world might change the church; Kingdom people work to see the church change the world.” Howard Snyder

“In regard to this great book [the Bible], I have but to say it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good Saviour gave to the world was communicated through this book. But for it we could not know right from wrong. All things most desirable for man’s welfare, here and hereafter, are found portrayed in it.” Abraham Lincoln

If you become aware of an evil or an injustice and do nothing to try and resist. Then you have to [or will] share in the guilt, and are passing judgement onto yourself. “Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.” James 4:17

“The swing to the east has come at a time when Christianity is weak at just those points where it would need to be strong, to withstand the east. Without this strength, the Eastern Religions will be to Christianity a new, dangerous gnosticism, but this time much of the fight will be lost. Before many see the nature of the danger.” Os Guinness

“Occult: Latin – Occults Means “hidden/secret things”. Term describes practices such as Astrology, Numerology, Witchcraft, Crystal Gazing, Necromancy [communication with the dead], Magic, Palm Reading. All which according to the Bible are forbidden to man and cursed by God. Leviticus 20:6, Deuteronomy 18:9-11, Acts 19:19

“These satanically energized methods of obtaining otherwise unobtainable knowledge comprise the very heart and soul of the New Age movement because they are the primary means through which New Age teachings are proclaimed. They may have modern sounding names [e.g., astral projection, psychometry, radiance therapy, channeling], but they are the same practices the church of Jesus Christ has been standing against for more than 19 centuries. The New Age movement is little more than Hindusim. It is the religion of India disguised in Western terminology and presented as a new brand of spirituality. Hinduism and Christianity:

The conflict between them is unavoidable. Why? Because Hinduism absorbs all religions while Christianity excludes all religions, that is, except orthodox Christianity.

This the danger of the New Age movement. Everything in it has been designed by Satan to do one thing and one thing only – destroy people’s faith in the God of the Bible.” Dr. Walter Martin

“You can not make theology out of just a few selected verses of scripture. The Bible always confirms itself.” Dan Betzer

From Adam to Noah meaning of their names: 1. Adam = man > 2. Seth = appointed > 3. Enosh = mortal > 4. Kenan = sorrow 5. Mahalalel = the blessed God > 6. Jared = shall come down 7. Enoch = teaching > 8. Methuselah = his death shall bring 9. Lamech = the despairing >10. Noah = comfort or rest.

Man is appointed mortal sorrow; but, the blessed God shall come down. Teaching that His death shall bring the despairing comfort. Chuck Missler


The Lord is known by the judgment He executes; The wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Psalm 9:16

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. Psalm 9:17

Let death seize them: Let them go down into hell, For wickedness is in their dwellings and among them. Psalm 55:15

Hell and Destruction are never full: So the eyes of man are never satisfied. Proverbs 27:20

“And I say to you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more they can do. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear Him who, after He has killed, has the power to cast into hell; yes I say to you, fear him! Luke 12-4-5

“For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of Him the Son of Man will be ashamed when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.” Mark 9:38

Many people will tell you that it doesn’t exist, or ignore it completely.

Jehovah’s Witnesses: The doctrine of a burning hell, where the wicked are tortured eternally after death cannot be true.

Christian Science: Hell is “Mortal belief, error, lust, remorse, hatred, revenge, sin, sickness, death.. That which worketh abomination or maketh a lie.” SH,588:1-4

Spiritualism: Hell does not exist and never will. All spirit people of wisdom, knowledge, and love know there is no hell and no devil.

Eastern Mysticism: Heaven and hell are not excepted concepts. Karma the “Law of the dead,” of sowing and reaping, is allied with Transmigration [reincarnation] in defining the results of sin and the rewards of good.

Mormans: Most of the Adult people who have lived since Adam [having rejected Christ and lived wickedly] will go to the “Telestial Kingdom”. D & C 76:71-78

Islam: Say to those who reject Faith: “Soon will you be vanquished together to Hell, – an evil bed indeed [to lie on].” Surah 3:12

Some people have said that none of this is real it’s just a state of mind. That we’re not really here just a different plane of existence.

Lets look at the description of Hell:

Abaddon, Gehenna, Sheol, Hades, [ place of holdiing ]. Dr. Grabe, in his Spicilegium, sect. 1 p. 353, declares to be not only the doctrine of Enoch, but of the apostles, and of the church apostolical. None of the wicked, whether demons or men, were then cast into hellfire, nor indeed should be cast into it till the day of judgment; Mathew 8:29, Jude 6-8. The book of Enoch is not part of the cannon, but is quoted in scripture.

What this tells us is that everyone who is worldly and not of the body of Christ, will be kept in outer darkness until the “Day of Judgment”.

The Fall of Lucifer: “How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart: I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’ Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit.” Isaiah 14:12-15 NKJV

Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” Matthew 13:24-30 NKJV

“Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face, the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and the books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.” Revelation 20:11-15

No one escapes death, the difference is weather we wait for the judgment in outer darkness or in the light with the Lord.

“Then he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazrarus that he may dip his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.” Luke 16:24-26

“His winnowing [shovel Is 30:24] fan is in His hand, and He will throughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather the wheat into His barn; He will burn with unquenchable fire.” Luke 3:17

When all people are resurrected, we’ll all have body’s to last for eternity. Either a glorified body given to the Saints of God, or the opposite to remain in eternal punishment.

“Since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.” 2 Thessalonians 1:6-10

“For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. Do not marvel at this, for the hour is coming in which all who are in the grave will hear His voice and come forth, those who have done good, to the resurrecton of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear I judge, and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.” John 5:26-30

“For in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who will render to each one according to his deeds: eternal life to those who by by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality, but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness-indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For there is no partiality with God.” Romans 2:5-9

The lake of fire spoken of in the bible is beyond any human conception. The fire is so hot that nothing in this universe can compare to it. It was created for the Devil and his fallen angels. But since the fall of Adam, rebellious man will join them. God doesn’t want anyone to be sent there, but man has always tried to do things on his own terms. Thats why he put Noah and his family on the Ark. And then why he sent His Son to show us the better way.

This is what the bible says about those who are found guilty.

“Shame and everlasting contempt” Daniel 12:2

“Everlasting punishment” Matthew 25:46

“Weeping and gnashing of teeth” Matthew 24:51

“Unquenchable fire” Luke 3:17

“Indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish” Romans 2:8-9

” Everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord” 2 Thes 1:9

“Eternal fire ** The blackness of darkness forever: Jude 7,13

“Tormented with fire and brimstone ** They have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image” Revelation 14:10,11

Nobody who rejects Jesus and the Salvation He offers will escape this end. There are no exceptions.

All religions have a belief about Hell [or not]. The difference between all religions everywhere and Christianity is that in all other faiths you have to do something to earn their definition of Salvation. In Christianity you have to repent your sins and seek Christ. This is done when you surrender your life to Him.

With Christ there is nothing you can do to earn salvation… “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and not of works, lest anyone should boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9

Rejecting Jesus or accepting his offer of salvation is up to the individual, the Lord gives everyone free choice. But he won’t be mocked. Our judicial system is based on what was handed down to Moses. Nobody is punished until their sentenced. It’s the same thing with all humans. No one will be sent to the lake of fire until their judged by Christ. All people who are not saved will wait in outer darkness until judgment day.

“For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written: As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” Romans 14:10b-11

Rejecting Jesus’ offer of Salvation, is the sure road to damnation. Nobody will get to heaven on their own. You have the opportunity to follow Jesus and find true love and happiness, or you can reject Him and find the other path. Our Lord offers His hand, you must decide weather to take it. Please, before it’s to late; if you haven’t trusted Him, please go to the article on Salvation and consider the information very carefully. Your eternity depends on your decision.

Warning: Please don’t rely on books like 23 minutes in Hell, A Divine Revelation of Hell, or 90 minutes in Heaven. If you want the truth about either place read the Bible. God’s peace

23 min in Hell.

False teachers

Examp0le:  I keep running into people who want to take scripture and make it into their own image…

A man who proclaims himself a bible teacher, he looks at scripture and follows after the parts that promote Jesus as a great teacher and a wonderful man. But the verses that show us Jesus as not only the Son of God, but God Himself, this man rejects completly. Showing him how the bible teaches us that Jesus is not only a great man but as the Creator Himself. Well thats a lie, was his response.

I come across this other man who is teaching that Jesus was a vegetarian. The only real problem with that one is that Christ participated in the passover. The Passover meal includes lamb.

And that we should head a A CALL TO REJECT PAULIANITY AND RETURN TO ESSENE NAZARENE CHRISTIANITY. These words are directly from his article. In it he says that Jesus was a part of the Nazarene Sect. But truth tells us that Jesus was called a Nazarene because He was from that village. Not because He belonged to that group!

I am sorry but I keep seeing so many Christians who start their biblical studies and tend to want to get back to their Jewishness. We are not Jews! We are gentiles who have been grafted in. If you personally want to follow such things, be my guest. But don’t tell me I’m not right with God if I don’t copy you. Scripture is clear that certain things are mandatory for us. Not to eat blood, not to eat strangled meat, or meat scrificed to idols [IE; halal meat], and most importantly what Jesus commanded us in…

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoeverI have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

I do believe maybe that certain things should be followed, like maybe passover of some sort because Christmas as it is celebrated is mostly a commercial venture and pagan in many ways. Also Easter is corrupted because of the pagan influnces. Like the egg which is a fertility ritual. And some things observed are from the worship of Ishtar in ancient Babylon. Anyway use your own judgment there.

We must remember we are saved by grace and not of our works. You can’t accept His grace for salvation and then tell others they have to work to obtain it.

A person can look for all sorts of outside influence to get “closer to God” but in all truth, He is in the Scripture and Paul was very clear that anyone teaching another gospel was condemed. Gal 1:6-9

Please stop trying to get to a higher conciousness and remember every time we search after these things we have to be carefull that Satan isn’t in the details.

I truly love the body of Christ but I am so very tired of people trying to corrupt it. If you want to be closer to Him, do two things.

1. Pray

2. Fulfill the great commission and make deciples

I was looking at this Essence chistianity and this is what they profess,

and as you can see what they teach is in direct contrast to true Scripture

Salvation is dependent on following the saving teachings of Jesus                                       YES

Salvation is dependent on belief in the sacrificial death of Jesus on the Cross                    NO

Belief in reincarnation in the context of a cosmic school system                                           YES

Based on this life only, you will either go to heaven

(if you believe in Jesus’s sacrificial death) or will burn in hell for eternity                          NO

Teachings based on the words of Jesus                                                                                    YES

Teachings based on the ideas of Paul                                                                                        NO

Use a New Testament with many more words of Paul than Jesus                                      NO

If you want to follow these or other teachings that contradict scripture, it’s your choice. But when you stand before the Lord at judgment you will be without excuse.

God Bless

Lost Innocence

I watched a little bit of a children’s program. The theme was about violence and all the other horrible things being done in the world today.   I think the name of that program might also be called Depravity in America.

They had children put on a skit about a child that had been killed in a drive by shooting. And how much pain it caused in so many lives. How there didn’t seem to be an answer for the state of the world. Always asking why, and proclaiming how we needed to change things.

They spent time giving answers as to why these things happen; education, poverty and many other reasons. What a wonderful world this would be if we could just get along. If we taught our children love for their fellow man. All the answers sounded very good. I was really impressed with the logic used, except for the facts.

First we have kicked God out of our schools, prayer is considered a waste of time or a violation of someone else’s rights. Respect for elders or society in general is considered stupid. I have rights to do what I want. IE follow Satan, have sexual education at 5, disrespect teachers because after all Im the only one who is important.

Laugh at anyone who teaches that morals are a good thing. Look at how many of the actors and Liberals in Hollywood produce material that shows us not to have have respect for our country because we are just trying to take over the world. Or many of our very own elected officals ignore the Constitution on a daily basis, and judges who legislate from the bench, because America is the evil one!

Of course this is easy to prove because nomatter how much these people might lose on a project they keep making anti-moral content.

There is so much more to this that it would take a week to list it all. But I do have an answer. The people in this nation who really just talk about God and having respect for Him are just in reality just pushing Him away. This is so prevelant that it’s rotting our nation from the inside. We were at one time a Christian based nation, but the truth is that to find Christ in America any longer would take a very large magnifying glass to see Him. And yes I know that their are many great Christians here.

But that is not the issue. We have done our best to outlaw the 10 commandments, to kick God out of everywhere including many churches of Christ. To spit in the face of morality that when our children ask why are all these bad things happening we can’t answer them, because nobody knows what sin is anymore. If you make everything legal, nothing is sacred!

America we had better get back to the roots of what this country was founded on or we are not going to be here much longer. God’s judgment is coming and the only thing that might save us is falling on our face before the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob and asking for His mercy.

If you continue to give your children over to false god’s you will suffer the same fate as Israel did in the past. America has been moving away from God because some people along the way have convinced others that there was a better way. Yes, and look how much better it is!

The only real hope any nation has is to repent and follow the true God. To do otherwise is to face judgment.  America had been a shining light on a hill… it is now at a crossroads and must make a decision for it’s very soul. If we continue to put self absorbed evil people in charge of our affairs we will see God’s judgment.